The Toledo War: When Ohio and Michigan Went to War and Wisconsin Lost

In 1835, a dispute based on a faulty map brought the State of Ohio and the Michigan Territory to the brink of war. The "Toledo War" represented the stresses of a growing nation, and rewrote the boundaries of three states. It is history that deserves to be remembered.

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  • Ohio vs That state up north and Wisconsin loses Sounds like football

    Ken PKen P5 цагийн өмнө
  • as a toledo native, it's hilarious to see all these negative comments about Toledo bc they're so true 😂.. I will never go back

    JamesJames17 цагийн өмнө
  • Michigan got the better deal even though Toledo is pretty an overflow if Detroit. I’m a Michigander

    David SouthwellDavid Southwell16 өдрийн өмнө
  • 2 states in America: *disagree on anything* "Boys, it's time fer hootin n shootin!"

    X CriticX Critic24 өдрийн өмнө
  • i have watched so many of THG videos i easily an happily lost count long ago.... every single video.... educational, informative, and correct and truthful to the best of your knowledge.... (i have seen you apologize and correct the most minor of errors.... never once made on purpose just simple mistakes that a human will make)..... cant thank you enough sir..... My aunt was responsible for creating the "childrens department" at our local library and as such i was blessed in that i grew up listening to amazing stories she told daily at "story time" and book clubs and such.... well sir in my opinion it seems those things have basically disappeared.... any chance you have done or will do a segment on libraries? at the age of 90ish shes still with us and works harder than one would imagine possible.... id love to show her a video youve done not about her but regarding a subject she has devoted her lifes work to ( librarian, Church secretary, Sunday School teacher, public school teacher, never married, amazing lady IMO) ..... thanks again sir please say hey to the wife and yall have a blessed day.... from Possum Holler, Arkansas

    Grady TurnerGrady Turner28 өдрийн өмнө
  • lmao i though his logo said THC at first, threw me off a little bit😂

    itsya boiitsya boiСарын өмнө
  • to bad that michigan did not lose detroit

    Kevin CockingKevin CockingСарын өмнө
  • I married a beautiful woman from Columbus, lord help the family reunions if the wolverines beat the Buckeyes, man , I can’t helipad but wonder now, has some animus carried over?

    Egor’s DadEgor’s DadСарын өмнө
  • Getting the UP was cool, but I'm still sore that Ohio stole the Toledo strip from us.

    Threeze NiNjaThreeze NiNja2 сарын өмнө
  • Holy Toledo...

    Casey GriswoldCasey Griswold2 сарын өмнө
  • Holy Toledo

    hogtime5hogtime52 сарын өмнө
  • The war continues still today. Every fall young men of The Ohio State Buckeyes battle the young men of the Michigan Wolverines battle on the gridiron in the greatest rivalry in sport. Suggestion for future episodes Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders and San Juan Hill.

    barnfly69barnfly692 сарын өмнө
  • Back in the late '70's, as I was heading by way of the Ohio Turnpike back to Ann Arbor, having visited my sister in Oberlin, I stopped at the Turnpike rest stop that's a little bit to the east of Toledo. Much to my surprise, in the little souvenir shop that they had, were coffee mugs bearing the word "Ohio"--painted in maize, on a background of blue! "Ohio" in Michigan colors? What gives? Some time later I heard about the territorial dispute, and the whole thing began to make sense--and I really wished I'd bought one of those mugs. I hear to this day there are those in the northern reaches of Ohio who prefer a Wolverine to a Buckeye, which, of course, is just some kind of a nut.

    drewby613drewby6132 сарын өмнө
  • A map is one thing ,,,,, peoples thinking is. A nother

    Louis EdwardsLouis Edwards3 сарын өмнө
  • Now there's football..next

    michael patutomichael patuto3 сарын өмнө
  • No mention of the on going rivalry MSU Wolverines and OSU Buckeyes? This is where it started!

    John iJohn i3 сарын өмнө
  • Toledo is ours! It really belongs to Michigan.💙💛

    PrayerMaDe patnaPrayerMaDe patna3 сарын өмнө
  • As far as college football is concerned, Ohio and Michigan are still at war. When I hear some of the most ridiculous statements from Ohio people...I just have to laugh. Thanks history guy

    marty mcmannismarty mcmannis3 сарын өмнө
  • Idk how they were going to kill each other over Toledo but the U P somehow goes to Michigan

    heather renae strigensheather renae strigens4 сарын өмнө
  • Great history lesson! Just two minor comments from a Toledo native (Perrysburg to be exact). There was a reference to a town to the south of Toledo as “Perrysville,” but it’s Perrysburg. Also, the “au” sound in “Maumee” is pronounced more like the “o” in “moss,” not the “o” in “cow.”

    Joy MoxonJoy Moxon4 сарын өмнө
  • American Indians are now called African American..

    Herm PHerm P4 сарын өмнө
  • Lol they talk shit about toledo but this video just said it was basically a part Of Michigan.. oh bc now it’s not Michigan’s we should bad mouth it.. Lmao.. both states have shit holes.. but I live in Toledo and I’m working in Kalamazoo.. huge difference.. let’s not compare turds to turds ppl..

    Tom CoxTom Cox4 сарын өмнө
  • I live in Toledo now...

    Danielle DDanielle D4 сарын өмнө
  • "TOILETO". I know, I live here.

    cherrynewideascherrynewideas4 сарын өмнө
  • Don't give a dam about the whole State of Xichigan.

    bryan ramasockybryan ramasocky4 сарын өмнө
  • I think I asked you to get to this over a year ago. Thanks!

    Joseph DenverJoseph Denver4 сарын өмнө
  • This is interesting and most don't know this but it's facts that my bloodline comes from Andrew Jackson..I live in the center of the 4 great lakes!😊 I love history

    kay Hkay H4 сарын өмнө
  • Got the wrong pronunciation of Maumee. I grew up near Toledo, Ohio. Perrysburg is across the Maumee River from the city of Maumee.

    Diane DunkelbergerDiane Dunkelberger4 сарын өмнө
  • More importantly, look into who opened the gates to the Muslims in Toledo Spain.

    74 Rowe74 Rowe4 сарын өмнө
  • So wait a minute if it wasn’t for Ohio getting Toledo The upper peninsula would be Wisconsin 🤔So what would be Wisconsin then

    What they Say KWhat they Say K4 сарын өмнө
    • Wisconsin would still be Wisconsin, but it would likely also include the UP.

      The History Guy: History Deserves to Be RememberedThe History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered4 сарын өмнө
  • We'll give Chicago away

    spark plugspark plug4 сарын өмнө
  • Racists. Haters. Then and now. The scum of America

    Balance Point 71Balance Point 714 сарын өмнө
  • *ichigan Sucks! Go Bucks!

    ginger5678ginger56784 сарын өмнө
  • I didnt know Bill's Gates and Bill Nye had a baby

    T-REV's Taste TubeT-REV's Taste Tube4 сарын өмнө
  • Michigan, north til you smell it, then left til yah step in it.

    Dirtyharry70585Dirtyharry705854 сарын өмнө
  • Northern Wisconsin, dictated by liberal Madison politics and mostly conservative people. The UP of Michigan dictated by liberal lansing politics and mostly conservative people, the UP and Northern Wi will become the 51st state called Superior.

    horste breedowhorste breedow4 сарын өмнө
  • Looks like we (Michigan) got the better end of that deal. I love the U.P.

    William HurrenWilliam Hurren4 сарын өмнө
  • Interesting info!!! Thanks for sharing!

    Quick RelaxationQuick Relaxation4 сарын өмнө
  • Formation of “black Wall Street” Construction of railroad. The Sooners.

    Jeremy LewisJeremy Lewis4 сарын өмнө
  • The lost peninsula of Michigan, is only accessed by road is threw Toledo

    Mike HolmesMike Holmes4 сарын өмнө
  • Eyy, so that’s why everyone here (in Northern Wisconsin) hates UPers. Good to know lol.

    Sophie JonesSophie Jones4 сарын өмнө
  • Im in Cleveland. My bands vinyl pressing plant is in Toledo.

    EGGS.BULLETS.RECORDSEGGS.BULLETS.RECORDS4 сарын өмнө
  • I was born and raised in Toledo. I went to Iraq to gtfo of there. And I'm not joking. If you ain't watching the walleye (either fishing or hockey) You should immediately head south without looking back.

    General KaelGeneral Kael4 сарын өмнө
  • Can confirm: Wisconsin still salty about this.

    Jonathan StensbergJonathan Stensberg4 сарын өмнө
  • I heard that Toledo was so boring back then that the post cards showed a picture of Cincinnati.

    Chief PontiacChief Pontiac4 сарын өмнө
  • It’s so interesting because this history still effects me. I live walking distance from Toledo, but in Michigan. If Toledo had been in Michigan, my neighborhood would probably be in the city. But the Michigan governments have zoning to keep it less city and more rural. So my rural neighborhood might be in the city of Toledo. That’s cool.

    Jacob GibbsJacob Gibbs4 сарын өмнө
  • I'm in Sandusky... Toledo and cleveland stole our shine when we had a cholera outbreak... Love these kind of videos on my area

    PARIAH THE BONELESSPARIAH THE BONELESS4 сарын өмнө
  • As a Yooper can say they don't care anymore that Upper Peninsula is still part of Michigan.

    Ben JohnsonBen Johnson4 сарын өмнө
  • It occurred to me immediately, that because Ohio, and Michigan, were led by bellicose, thick skulled, jack asses, Wisconsin got screwed out of land that obviously should have been part of Wisconsin. A lot of Da Yoopers that I know would rather be part of Wisconsin. Good video content.

    Metalbass10000Metalbass100004 сарын өмнө
  • I guess they were always crooked bastards. Toledo sucks. Give it back. I think Michigan is a Caliphate now anyway.

    Tammy NordgrenTammy Nordgren4 сарын өмнө
  • 1:25 The Mississippi river was the Western border of the Northwest Territory, not the Eastern.

    Craig BenjaminCraig Benjamin4 сарын өмнө
  • GREAT SHOWS

    Ronnie WallRonnie Wall4 сарын өмнө
  • ........right on Michigan ! We won the war ! Peace , from Cass County MICHIGAN ! Wolverine State ! Seawolf SSN575 ! Maranatha !

    George HaysGeorge Hays4 сарын өмнө
  • I hoped this video had less info and was more fun.

    That Michigan GuyThat Michigan Guy4 сарын өмнө
  • lolol i live in toledo. point place specifically

    Caleb ReynoldsCaleb Reynolds4 сарын өмнө
  • The real losers where the people of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula where we as a people have been wanting our state hood since the beginning we where willing to wait till we got the population required but as it has been since the beginning Michigan has been treating the U. P. As a colony and not part of Michigan we have had to fight for every thing from self government to having our kids recognized as Michigan students and to let them compete in state play offs in lower Michigan. Now in 2020 with Michigan redistricting of voting areas Michigan involved most of the state and having citizens help draw the new districts that is except the U. P. Where we where purposely left out by the state even with objections from our representatives. This is just another attempt to control the U. P. We where promised by the federal government that after the petition to become a state back in the 1970’s that when we get a population of 1/2 million people we would be admitted state hood every time we create job and people the state and In new laws to kill jobs and dive the population down as it is now we have 380,000 people and are doing what we can to get our state hood peacefully.as a side note we only got turned down and lost by 1 vote in Congress in the 1970’s.

    Carl FitzpatrickCarl Fitzpatrick4 сарын өмнө
  • The Indians knew Michigan was shaped like mitten or hand !

    Mark BarnaartMark Barnaart4 сарын өмнө
  • Because who wants to be from Ohio !

    Mark BarnaartMark Barnaart4 сарын өмнө
  • As a Michiganian I can confirm Ohio is the armpit of the United States. Just kidding Ohio.

    Chim RichaldsChim Richalds4 сарын өмнө
  • Ohio kept Toledo and in turn gave Michigan the Upper Peninsula. Michigan definitely won.

    The 1PubemanThe 1Pubeman4 сарын өмнө
  • All history is forgotten and replaced with bulshit and the voting sheeple believe it

    Frankie RockFrankie Rock4 сарын өмнө
  • Maw mee not Mow mee

    Thorsten DebsThorsten Debs4 сарын өмнө
  • You should discuss the continuation of this war as it plays out every year between the University of Michigan and The Ohio State University. :-)

    John SmithJohn Smith4 сарын өмнө
  • Toledo would not be the Hole it is now if it were in Michigan. I drive thru Indiana when ever i can to avoid going thru that Shat Hole of a State to the south.

    Andrew MinelliAndrew Minelli4 сарын өмнө
  • Wow, this adds so much context to the Ohio State V Michigan game...🤔

    Mel SMel S4 сарын өмнө
  • No doubt this was all over Tax Revenue and corrupt politicians

    BB4 сарын өмнө
  • ✨🥸✨

    Bob JohnsonBob Johnson4 сарын өмнө
  • Toledo is beautiful tho, in Spain.

    Ray KRay K4 сарын өмнө
  • As a native Michiganian, and a die hard Wolverine fan, Ive known this history all my life, and don't need to watch this. Michigan lost the war, but gained the upper peninsula. Had I been around at the time, and known part of the deal would be the Ohio State Buckeyes beating the Wolverines for so many years straight? I would have fought harder to take it ALL!

    Oregon PatriotOregon Patriot4 сарын өмнө
  • Awesome channel! Thanks

    GermaxicusGermaxicus4 сарын өмнө
  • I wish there were more documentary films on subjects such as this. Thanks for sharing!!!

    Patricia RibaricPatricia Ribaric4 сарын өмнө
  • So good.

    Elijah GreggElijah Gregg4 сарын өмнө
  • So Michigan has always been a problem child to America

    Brad WoodBrad Wood4 сарын өмнө
  • This is not the only time Wisconsin lost territory. The western boundary of Wisconsin went right up the Mississippi and did not fork over onto the St Croix River as the modern boundary is. So, just as Toledo, Michigan was a has been, so was St. Paul, Wisconsin as the entire northeast section of Minnesota, east of the Mississippi, was taken from the original Wisconsin Territory.

    KEP GUYKEP GUY4 сарын өмнө
  • "What are we fighting for?" Toledo. "Oh. I'm outta here"

    Brad HobbsBrad Hobbs4 сарын өмнө
  • This is WAY KOOL..Some of MY HOME TOWNS history I did NOT know..Reynolds corners area,Roger's alum '77' ..

    Timothy CothranTimothy Cothran4 сарын өмнө
  • Well, aunt Carolee was never going to win against that bra with the fireworks.

    Fred FlintstoneFred Flintstone4 сарын өмнө
  • Ohio will you please take Detroit and surrounding area??? Pretty Pretty Please!!

    Monkey ButtMonkey Butt4 сарын өмнө
  • Great video as always. Another part of history previously unknown to me.

    Golden ShineGolden Shine4 сарын өмнө
  • Still waiting for the True and Factual history of the Cleveland/Ohio City war.

    Tim BuktuTim Buktu4 сарын өмнө
  • All that cold weather in the 1800s sure sounds like an ice age...a little one...some might call it the "Little Ice Age", that the "experts" now deny ever existed. History does indeed deserve to be remembered.

    Francisco MaldonadoFrancisco Maldonado4 сарын өмнө
  • In my 52 years, I've lived 48 in Michigan and 4 in Ohio. I love the story of the Toledo War and how Michigan hit the jackpot with the natural resources of the upper peninsula. In Ohio History class (taught in middle school), I would bring up how Michigan was the ultimate victor in the war, which earned the ire of my teacher and classmates. I think the bad blood between Ohio and Michigan can ultimately be traced back to the conflict and is acted out in modern day college football. Michiganders don't think much of Ohioans, but Ohioans downright despise Michiganders.

    Todd NiehausTodd Niehaus4 сарын өмнө
  • Seems there's often an unseen loser. Very interesting. I love this channel.

    yLeprechaunyLeprechaun4 сарын өмнө
  • Damn half Canuck Michiganders! Stay the hell outta Ohio, ya bastards!

    Friendly RobotFriendly Robot4 сарын өмнө
  • So, could this must be the beginning reason for the lingering disdain of OH for MI. As a person raised in AK the rivalry of MI vs OH was perplexing.

    SolavitaSolavita4 сарын өмнө
  • Fun fact: A section of the Michigan - Wisconsin border remained contested until 1926. Wisconsin won the dispute.

    L HavilandL Haviland4 сарын өмнө
  • Michigan won double. They got the UP _and_ foisted Toledo onto Ohio.

    L HavilandL Haviland4 сарын өмнө
  • Michigan territory won. Ohio had to take Toledo.

    jim wedgejim wedge4 сарын өмнө
  • O H

    Victory LaneVictory Lane5 сарын өмнө
  • I'm pretty sure that Toledo means toilet in some languages.

    Mario GarciaMario Garcia5 сарын өмнө
  • Time for state to go war again

    Robert WhiteRobert White5 сарын өмнө
  • There were many of these border disputes. My ancestors were engaged in such a fracas in the Yankee Pennamite wars.

    David DixonDavid Dixon5 сарын өмнө
  • The effects of this event are still prevalent. If you live in toledo you are likely to say "fuck michigan" or "fucking michigan drivers" at least once a day and if you live in any of the small towns south of monroe michigan you likely say the same about toledo. You also purposely begin driving worse somehow like a natural reaction any time you cross the state line which makes the stretch of 75 between toledo and detroit and 23 between toledo and ann arbor and telegraph road between monroe and toledo unneccesarily dangerous. Most people who drive through toledo typically wonder why there are so many cops and speed traps on the road. This is why. This is also why U of M and Ohio State football games are so crazy

    MeowsyMeowsy5 сарын өмнө
  • Kind of sounds what going on in our government today. No one truly knows who is right and who are the good guys or bad guys.

    MichaelbosMichaelbos5 сарын өмнө
  • seriously gr8 material. but more maps less you. narration and material... gr8. presentation eh.

    yyz 83suprayyz 83supra5 сарын өмнө
  • How about that masonic handshake? That's how you know the good guys lost.

    Charlie MountainCharlie Mountain5 сарын өмнө
  • *Toledo War* Everyone: Pokey: Holy Toledo!

    ionryfulionryful5 сарын өмнө
  • HOLY TOLEDO!!!!

    Rob and Corinne MinshallRob and Corinne Minshall5 сарын өмнө
  • So interesting.

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